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The Great Battle was fought by the Valar and is not counted among the Great Battles of Beleriand but I don't believe in squabbling so, ask a question.

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Not counted? By who? I'm afraid I have to side with Ennordil on this one!

Beleriand was destroyed in the War of Wrath - in any papers or documents which I have read (some of which have never been made public - I was fortunate enough to be invited to a semi-private exhibition run by the Tolkien Estate), this battle was never discounted.

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents on this little discussion.

As for a question

What are the western havens of the Falas named after?

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barad nimras is the western most point in the falas. it means white horn tower and was named by finrod felagund. the only other noteworthy places that i recall in falas are brithombar and eglarest which are the north and south points, respectively.

is that the answer???

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Given that Barad Nimras was not a haven, the desired answer is probably that Brithombar was named after the river Brithon at whose mouth it was situated; and Eglarest was probably named after its inhabitants, who were part of the Eglath or 'forsaken'. Just guessing the last part though...

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Am I correct?

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Nice to see you back D_V

I don't know if you are correct so I am going to stab at it.

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I am PMing G for a ruling.

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quote:
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Am I correct?


Indeed you are D-V!!

Cheers!

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DOH! So close... Well, it was only my first try at an answer.

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What was Gil-Galad's given name?

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Ereinon, son of Fingon.... w00t!

<------- Hungry for more!

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Ereinion Gil-galad who may (or may not) have been the Son of Fingon is the name that made it into the (Published) Silmarillion.

For my question...

What (specifically) happened to Derufin?

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he was trampled to death by Mumakin (sp?) with his brother in the battle of pelennor field.


Who was the the 16th king of Gondor?


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Earnil I?

Let me know if I'm right...

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Nope, thirteenth...

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quote:
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he was trampled to death by Mumakin (sp?) with his brother in the battle of pelennor field.


Who was the the 16th king of Gondor?


just noticed my funky post count!!!!


Alcarin?

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Nope, thirteenth...


I was counting Elendil, Isildur and Anarion...

So it would be Atanatar II...correct?

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I was counting Elendil, Isildur and Anarion...

So it would be Atanatar II...correct?



No Earnil was closer it was actually Ciryandil. Yes you need to count Elendil, Isildur and Anarion because

1) Gondor was founed in 3320SA

2) Elendil was High king over both kingdoms just as Aragorn II became High King after the War Of The Ring.

3) Isildur and Anarion were co-kings each having their own city (Minas Anor & Minas Ithil) and Osgiliath being the primary capital.

What was Aragon's maternal grandmother’s name?

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Personally I think you're taking poetic license here, according to "The New Tolkien Companion" Atanatar II Alcarin was the 16th king of Gondor.

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Personally I think you're taking poetic license here, according to "The New Tolkien Companion" Atanatar II Alcarin was the 16th king of Gondor.


I am using Tolkien's words out of Appenndix A not a wanna be guide.

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Aha! Unfortunately I haven't been able to find my fargin copy of Appendix A!!! The guide actually was approved by the estate back in '79...

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